vsrinir
01-13 01:21 PM
What to do?????????? Oh God!!!!!!
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gk_2000
03-27 10:21 AM
You came here 6 years ago and applied for your GC only in 2010. Didnt you find an employer who would file one for you. And you also know if your GC gets screwed for some reason, then you are out of the US also.
Looks like something is missing, Dear.
6 years ago, in 2004 (2010 minus 6 years), there was no retrogression. And you didnt apply though you had an option. Very very funny.
Tell me, what are the facts.
This is merely a sampling of how people think when there is no unnatural pressure. If dates are retrogressed, you feel you better apply, whether you are interested or not --just in case. If dates are OK, you feel "let me wait and see if I like it here or not". Just a case of group thinking IMO
Looks like something is missing, Dear.
6 years ago, in 2004 (2010 minus 6 years), there was no retrogression. And you didnt apply though you had an option. Very very funny.
Tell me, what are the facts.
This is merely a sampling of how people think when there is no unnatural pressure. If dates are retrogressed, you feel you better apply, whether you are interested or not --just in case. If dates are OK, you feel "let me wait and see if I like it here or not". Just a case of group thinking IMO
amitps
09-25 12:31 PM
I would expect a minimal level of service from an expensive lawyer whether my company or my wife's company or I myself pay for it. We are their client. That is what they do not understand.
Can you believe they took 10 days to inform us what docs we need to provide for the 485 filing even after the fact that we had called them the day in June when the priority dates became current. Even in the list of documents, they had "Certified Birth Certificate" and when we asked how do we get Certified, they were like oh just give a photocopy. We had already spent 3 days researching about this CERTIFIED BIRTH CERT. The certified concept is something which is not common in India but it is in USA and a company like Fragomen should know this - it is their job.
Even after HR's multiple emails approving to start the filing 15 days later they ask us if HR has approved this - RIDICULOUS.
We asked them for the copies of the filed petition, they took 1 month to provide them as they were TOO busy filing other applicants - fine but making copies and sending over should not take more than 20 mins.
Now, I have been asking for a receipt for the money I paid out of my pocket so that I can get it reimbursed from my employer, they are giving me a hard time.
All I expect is when we are paying so much money - they should provide services to us.
All I know is if I was providing this level of service to my client, I would have been fired, but given that in this process you get stuck with a lawyer and cannot do much about it....they are using it to their advantage which they should not be...
Can you believe they took 10 days to inform us what docs we need to provide for the 485 filing even after the fact that we had called them the day in June when the priority dates became current. Even in the list of documents, they had "Certified Birth Certificate" and when we asked how do we get Certified, they were like oh just give a photocopy. We had already spent 3 days researching about this CERTIFIED BIRTH CERT. The certified concept is something which is not common in India but it is in USA and a company like Fragomen should know this - it is their job.
Even after HR's multiple emails approving to start the filing 15 days later they ask us if HR has approved this - RIDICULOUS.
We asked them for the copies of the filed petition, they took 1 month to provide them as they were TOO busy filing other applicants - fine but making copies and sending over should not take more than 20 mins.
Now, I have been asking for a receipt for the money I paid out of my pocket so that I can get it reimbursed from my employer, they are giving me a hard time.
All I expect is when we are paying so much money - they should provide services to us.
All I know is if I was providing this level of service to my client, I would have been fired, but given that in this process you get stuck with a lawyer and cannot do much about it....they are using it to their advantage which they should not be...
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lotsofspace
12-10 04:30 PM
I completely understand the frustration expressed by logiclife.
We either fail to appreciate or choose to ignore the fact that not every one is in the same situation when it comes to GC. For some, it is THE THING. For some it is just Nice to Have and some don't care. If it comes as a by product of being here so be it. Some of more desperate than others ...
Most people around here are educated and know what they are doing. I believe that was their decision and they have every right to make that.
1) I have a friend of mine, he is gainfully employed for his skills and his wife needs to be in this place for next 5 years. So he does not bother as long as his company applies for 10 to 13 year H1 extension (Which they did). Never visits IV, does not really care what happens around here.... I don't blame him.
2) Another friend of mine joined at a junior level and can't wait to get out of here with AC21. Now that he has MBA, wants to move up with AC21 (know, it is not allowed now). I told this person about our omnibus and he contributed.
and other people fall all over the spectrum of interest from apathy to can't live without it.
If I were in logiclife's situation I probably would react the same way, but I am NOT the leader of the org :) :)
I doubt who frequent here would have felt bad about the logiclife's comments, because it was just logic life being logiclife. :)
At the same time I don't think calling some one coward persuaded any one to contribute monetarily , If they have not contributed so far or decided not to. It sure would have released some of the frustration of some active members :)
My Original Peaceful question again:
Does battering members without knowing a real cause and passing judgements and making snide remarks help this movement in any way?
Anyone ?
I know there may be a number of people here who don't care about participation. But I also know they are outnumbered by sensible/mature members.
Occasionally administrators here start an emotional post, which is taken highly positively by active followers but not general population. Then there begins a war, Lines are drawn with elephants/horses on both sides.
This place is a complete disaster when it comes to PR.
One Solution - Close this place and stop aggravating people.
Real Solution - Do what is right forge ahead with defined agenda, don't make people ashamed or left out or make snide remarks as leaders/followers or activists.
Keeping a movement alive needs strong and open minded leaders. I think there are plenty of those leaders at immigrationvoice, Logiclife may or may not be one of them, i don't know (never met him or talked to him, neither have the desire), You don't have to make people join the movement, movement is when people follow with their hearts.
Since I am back in "red" after one Logical question on Logiclife's post in three months, I will go back to my exile, and let activists/followers rule this movement.
Peace again..
It's a sad day to see IVers granting each other 'red squares' , and committed members asking each other to 'shut up'.
We are quick in jumping at each others throat for no apparent real reason ! Being part of a forum is sharing space with others, with those whom you disagree, and those who disagree with you. Argue logically, but don't make it a personal fight.
Don't agree with someone, make your displeasure known. If things seem to be getting hotter, ignore the other person. Live and let live. We have bigger issues to worry here - GC mess - instead of who said what !
Agreed. But I am not surprised that oldmonk got reds. :(
For all those who want to make it pay site, I guess the core must have thought about it already and make it one if that makes sense.
We either fail to appreciate or choose to ignore the fact that not every one is in the same situation when it comes to GC. For some, it is THE THING. For some it is just Nice to Have and some don't care. If it comes as a by product of being here so be it. Some of more desperate than others ...
Most people around here are educated and know what they are doing. I believe that was their decision and they have every right to make that.
1) I have a friend of mine, he is gainfully employed for his skills and his wife needs to be in this place for next 5 years. So he does not bother as long as his company applies for 10 to 13 year H1 extension (Which they did). Never visits IV, does not really care what happens around here.... I don't blame him.
2) Another friend of mine joined at a junior level and can't wait to get out of here with AC21. Now that he has MBA, wants to move up with AC21 (know, it is not allowed now). I told this person about our omnibus and he contributed.
and other people fall all over the spectrum of interest from apathy to can't live without it.
If I were in logiclife's situation I probably would react the same way, but I am NOT the leader of the org :) :)
I doubt who frequent here would have felt bad about the logiclife's comments, because it was just logic life being logiclife. :)
At the same time I don't think calling some one coward persuaded any one to contribute monetarily , If they have not contributed so far or decided not to. It sure would have released some of the frustration of some active members :)
My Original Peaceful question again:
Does battering members without knowing a real cause and passing judgements and making snide remarks help this movement in any way?
Anyone ?
I know there may be a number of people here who don't care about participation. But I also know they are outnumbered by sensible/mature members.
Occasionally administrators here start an emotional post, which is taken highly positively by active followers but not general population. Then there begins a war, Lines are drawn with elephants/horses on both sides.
This place is a complete disaster when it comes to PR.
One Solution - Close this place and stop aggravating people.
Real Solution - Do what is right forge ahead with defined agenda, don't make people ashamed or left out or make snide remarks as leaders/followers or activists.
Keeping a movement alive needs strong and open minded leaders. I think there are plenty of those leaders at immigrationvoice, Logiclife may or may not be one of them, i don't know (never met him or talked to him, neither have the desire), You don't have to make people join the movement, movement is when people follow with their hearts.
Since I am back in "red" after one Logical question on Logiclife's post in three months, I will go back to my exile, and let activists/followers rule this movement.
Peace again..
It's a sad day to see IVers granting each other 'red squares' , and committed members asking each other to 'shut up'.
We are quick in jumping at each others throat for no apparent real reason ! Being part of a forum is sharing space with others, with those whom you disagree, and those who disagree with you. Argue logically, but don't make it a personal fight.
Don't agree with someone, make your displeasure known. If things seem to be getting hotter, ignore the other person. Live and let live. We have bigger issues to worry here - GC mess - instead of who said what !
Agreed. But I am not surprised that oldmonk got reds. :(
For all those who want to make it pay site, I guess the core must have thought about it already and make it one if that makes sense.
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migboy
07-23 11:30 AM
Don't take me the wrong way, these guys sure are very nice, but just because he filed in July without a receipt does NOT mean anything. It's not like his 485 has been approved, and even if it had, that doesn't mean anything either.
Remember we are dealing with some contractors in the mail room, and without official guidance from USCIS in the form of a field notice, each employee in the mail room could make his arbitrary decisions.
So, i wouldn't delude myself based on what someone in IV core has done. It MAY sound logical to include the copy of 140 but then as you probably know by know, logic does not apply here :D
Remember we are dealing with some contractors in the mail room, and without official guidance from USCIS in the form of a field notice, each employee in the mail room could make his arbitrary decisions.
So, i wouldn't delude myself based on what someone in IV core has done. It MAY sound logical to include the copy of 140 but then as you probably know by know, logic does not apply here :D
jsb
08-19 02:47 PM
If you have plans of doing an MBA in future, then Canada would be a better option than US. Otherwise as uma001 points out, doors are closed for most professions except 38 occupations.
H1bslave, in your case your PD is Sep 5 EB2. I see something in the distant horizon. PD of 2007 and beyond or EB3-India I see no hope.
Atleast you can survive on a lifeboat called EAD and AC21.
Note that list of occupations changes constantly. I lived in Canada for 20 years after coming as PR on point system. It works well there, if you think money is not everything. Education is equally good. People, of course are far nicer and friendlier. Even border immigration and custom staff show a friendly face and attitude..
H1bslave, in your case your PD is Sep 5 EB2. I see something in the distant horizon. PD of 2007 and beyond or EB3-India I see no hope.
Atleast you can survive on a lifeboat called EAD and AC21.
Note that list of occupations changes constantly. I lived in Canada for 20 years after coming as PR on point system. It works well there, if you think money is not everything. Education is equally good. People, of course are far nicer and friendlier. Even border immigration and custom staff show a friendly face and attitude..
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yabadaba
06-19 06:39 PM
this bill needs to die...its amnesty on the back of legal immigrants.
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amsgc
04-12 12:13 AM
I agree with most of your post, but to state that 5yrs of wait is not a catastrophic delay - you have to be really very patient, and frankly unimaginitive to know what you can do with your green card.
Going forward, only people hit with retrogression will wait for 5-7 years. And if you look at the percentage of people getting a green card, a large number of them will get it in a couple of years, while the rest of us will suffer the nonsensical country cap.
Companies hire individuals not only because they can get the job done, but also because they see that the individual will evolove in his/her role going forward. Which company will continue to keep you in the same position for 5 years, doing the same thing day after day? You have to be just dumb enough not to get promoted and with zero ambition to succeed.
Understand that we are stuck. This is not what we want.
Historically, 5 years for end-to-end GC process is not considered as catastrophic delay...
There is a good chance that 2005 PD might get approved in 2010 summer , even with current system unless USCIS looses more visa #s. So IV and all of us have to scream at high pitch and frequently so that no more Visa #s are lost. I think it is happening
2003 this summer , 2004 in 09 and 2005 in 2010 is quite possible.
Now if we all contribute more $$$ to IV we can expedite the above time table.
data indicates some movement in approvals for EB3-I in last 3 weeks. sorry IV , unless sorting issue is fixed, rich data is not of much use . Example: sort by PD's does string sorting instead of date sorting .
Cheer up ...it will happen
Going forward, only people hit with retrogression will wait for 5-7 years. And if you look at the percentage of people getting a green card, a large number of them will get it in a couple of years, while the rest of us will suffer the nonsensical country cap.
Companies hire individuals not only because they can get the job done, but also because they see that the individual will evolove in his/her role going forward. Which company will continue to keep you in the same position for 5 years, doing the same thing day after day? You have to be just dumb enough not to get promoted and with zero ambition to succeed.
Understand that we are stuck. This is not what we want.
Historically, 5 years for end-to-end GC process is not considered as catastrophic delay...
There is a good chance that 2005 PD might get approved in 2010 summer , even with current system unless USCIS looses more visa #s. So IV and all of us have to scream at high pitch and frequently so that no more Visa #s are lost. I think it is happening
2003 this summer , 2004 in 09 and 2005 in 2010 is quite possible.
Now if we all contribute more $$$ to IV we can expedite the above time table.
data indicates some movement in approvals for EB3-I in last 3 weeks. sorry IV , unless sorting issue is fixed, rich data is not of much use . Example: sort by PD's does string sorting instead of date sorting .
Cheer up ...it will happen
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abhijitp
11-15 05:13 PM
Is there anyway we could go about pushing our story in the media? I am sure all of us combined have a a few thousand bachelor's, master's and ph.d. degrees. We are a group of people with highly advanced skill sets and this needs to be advertised. Maybe convincing a few journalists to take up our cause could be an option. Local newspapers, political blogs, radio stations etc. etc.
IV has been doing this already! Please join your state chapter, and help continue doing it. Thanks!
IV has been doing this already! Please join your state chapter, and help continue doing it. Thanks!
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Ramba
03-14 12:07 PM
People with EB3-India may not expect any kind of fast movement in near future, unless law changes. It will be in snail phase. It is waste discussion to analyze howmany people filled EB3 LC from India in 2002,2003 etc. Generally EB3 is very high demand catagory from all accross the world. EB3 contains skilled worker catagory including cooks, nurses, and so many many non-professional occupations. All the discusion are focussed on demand by Indian IT folks, by ignoring other spectrum of the demand by other group of peoples. Therfore no matter what; EB3-India will get only 3000 EB3 GC per year (Approxmatly 1500 primary).
1500 LC per year EB3 India is a tiny fraction of the demand by EB3 India. Therefore best advise in EB3 India folks to convert into EB2 to get use of early PD like 2002 or 2003.
1500 LC per year EB3 India is a tiny fraction of the demand by EB3 India. Therefore best advise in EB3 India folks to convert into EB2 to get use of early PD like 2002 or 2003.
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pcs
07-06 09:02 AM
I had FREE company attorney but decided to file 485 etc. myself & it was so much better. You can easily do 140-485 etc yourself. Call me & I will tell you.
If at all use an attorney for PERM. In my situation, even that was screwed up & I had to do that myself.
It is high time, all of us capable of handling complex viral equations, do this simple job , spread the knowledge , save $$$ & contribute some savings to IV
Best wishes
If at all use an attorney for PERM. In my situation, even that was screwed up & I had to do that myself.
It is high time, all of us capable of handling complex viral equations, do this simple job , spread the knowledge , save $$$ & contribute some savings to IV
Best wishes
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gccovet
06-26 09:35 AM
I know IV is doing its best and there are other groups fighting for HR 5882.
But honestly, what are the chances for this bill to succeed this year (before election)?
100% or 75% or 50% or 25% or 0%
Ron Gotcher predicts that none of the individual bills may pass this year.
And also that EB3 I may not move forward even next year!
I am not sure how many EB3 (I) volunteers are there in IV (who are really focussed). Are they getting nothing? The prediction is that EB3 I may go back to Nov 2001 and stay there for a while (or may be for the rest of next year).
Is the efforts of EB3 (I) volunteers being exploited (indirectly, ofcourse)? What are they fighting for?
If a mountain looks high, you just don't give up if you really want to summit.
Hence, my friend, we all have to try...remember that old saying ...Try and Try .... Till You Succeed.
There is nothing to loose, but if this clicks, everybody is a winner.
EB3-I will benefit (not all) but those who get the GC will move OUT of the line, clearing the way for others.
If you have any other suggestion for things we could do besides sitting idle and doing nothing, you are most welcome to express it.
In my opinion, if you don�t try then you don�t get anything.
GCCovet
But honestly, what are the chances for this bill to succeed this year (before election)?
100% or 75% or 50% or 25% or 0%
Ron Gotcher predicts that none of the individual bills may pass this year.
And also that EB3 I may not move forward even next year!
I am not sure how many EB3 (I) volunteers are there in IV (who are really focussed). Are they getting nothing? The prediction is that EB3 I may go back to Nov 2001 and stay there for a while (or may be for the rest of next year).
Is the efforts of EB3 (I) volunteers being exploited (indirectly, ofcourse)? What are they fighting for?
If a mountain looks high, you just don't give up if you really want to summit.
Hence, my friend, we all have to try...remember that old saying ...Try and Try .... Till You Succeed.
There is nothing to loose, but if this clicks, everybody is a winner.
EB3-I will benefit (not all) but those who get the GC will move OUT of the line, clearing the way for others.
If you have any other suggestion for things we could do besides sitting idle and doing nothing, you are most welcome to express it.
In my opinion, if you don�t try then you don�t get anything.
GCCovet
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map_boiler
09-15 10:11 AM
Check out this case on Murthy forum:
http://murthyforum.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1024039761&f=4654000912&m=3531099941&r=9561086251#9561086251
Hope this helps! Hang in there, and good luck!
http://murthyforum.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1024039761&f=4654000912&m=3531099941&r=9561086251#9561086251
Hope this helps! Hang in there, and good luck!
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mpadapa
02-12 11:47 AM
My spouse and 6 of my friends send in their letters last week.
Few more to come, need to follow up
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thomachan72
10-01 04:58 PM
I think somebody should take an initiative and start a new thread called "THE BASHING THREAD" where everybody could go, (occasionally or in some cases very frequently) whenever we feel dejected and let it on whoever is active there. You could also invite your prey into the bashing thread by saying politely "If you are brave meet me in the bashing thread in 5 minutes".
In case somebody starts a new thread (for eg:- something like this very thread about airline induced missery) and if you feel angry at that person for doing so, you could simply post in the thread "Hallo friend please visit the BASHING THREAD for my reply" instead of hurling personal abuses in every thread we could effectively confine our ego created frustrations/anger into one single thread.
Computer gurus could work on it and try to create some special effects also, like if I bash somebody the degree to which that person is hurt should be reflected by color change or some sort of visual reference.
In case somebody starts a new thread (for eg:- something like this very thread about airline induced missery) and if you feel angry at that person for doing so, you could simply post in the thread "Hallo friend please visit the BASHING THREAD for my reply" instead of hurling personal abuses in every thread we could effectively confine our ego created frustrations/anger into one single thread.
Computer gurus could work on it and try to create some special effects also, like if I bash somebody the degree to which that person is hurt should be reflected by color change or some sort of visual reference.
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singhsa3
07-18 03:14 PM
Oh Boy!, I feel like hugging you (Jadu ki zappi). By the way my story is very similar to you
Came to USA in 1999 to do MBA from a top US school. Joined a multinational org in 2001, filled my labor in 2002, got laid off in 2005, Filled my another labor in 2005.
But look , I am cool!:)
Frist, sorry for the confusion. I do have a 05/2007 PD at Atlanta PERM center. I came to the country in 1999 for grad school, started working with OPT in 2001, converted to H1 in 2002, laid off in 2002, started working again in 2002 with a new employer, filed labor in 2004 and got stuck in BEC ever since. The employer refused to file PERM, so I had change to a new company in 2006, and had PERM filed in 2007 and got stuck there again. Your are right, I am technically not in BEC, but psychologically I always feel I am in there.
I did not know what was 'disruptive' and 'inappropriate' about what I said. This is a board for BEC victims, so BEC victims are not allowed to express our frustration? I just expressed my depress and my concerns over how much this will retrogress the PD without targeting anyone. When tons of people run in front of our queue and shut us out in cold, we are supposed to 'enjoy the moment' with them? If so, when USCIS said no one can file 485 on July 2nd, why none of the people enjoy the happiness with those who already filed, because that will make their processing time much faster. People said we should feel happy for those who can file, because they now can get EAD/AP for their spouses, as if our spouse do not need EAD/AP. And as a result of this total mess, I don't think we'll have hope in another several years to see the date current.
IV core keeps telling us, BEC is always on their agenda. Really? If they did not even understand our pain and consider our frustration a disruption to people's happiness, how can we expect them to help? I still think IV is a great org, as it's the first such organization to speak out for legal immigrants. But when it comes to BEC victims, I did not see IV changed anything, or intend to change anything.
btw my original ID is still being banned
Came to USA in 1999 to do MBA from a top US school. Joined a multinational org in 2001, filled my labor in 2002, got laid off in 2005, Filled my another labor in 2005.
But look , I am cool!:)
Frist, sorry for the confusion. I do have a 05/2007 PD at Atlanta PERM center. I came to the country in 1999 for grad school, started working with OPT in 2001, converted to H1 in 2002, laid off in 2002, started working again in 2002 with a new employer, filed labor in 2004 and got stuck in BEC ever since. The employer refused to file PERM, so I had change to a new company in 2006, and had PERM filed in 2007 and got stuck there again. Your are right, I am technically not in BEC, but psychologically I always feel I am in there.
I did not know what was 'disruptive' and 'inappropriate' about what I said. This is a board for BEC victims, so BEC victims are not allowed to express our frustration? I just expressed my depress and my concerns over how much this will retrogress the PD without targeting anyone. When tons of people run in front of our queue and shut us out in cold, we are supposed to 'enjoy the moment' with them? If so, when USCIS said no one can file 485 on July 2nd, why none of the people enjoy the happiness with those who already filed, because that will make their processing time much faster. People said we should feel happy for those who can file, because they now can get EAD/AP for their spouses, as if our spouse do not need EAD/AP. And as a result of this total mess, I don't think we'll have hope in another several years to see the date current.
IV core keeps telling us, BEC is always on their agenda. Really? If they did not even understand our pain and consider our frustration a disruption to people's happiness, how can we expect them to help? I still think IV is a great org, as it's the first such organization to speak out for legal immigrants. But when it comes to BEC victims, I did not see IV changed anything, or intend to change anything.
btw my original ID is still being banned
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Almond
07-05 10:53 AM
This is pathetic and hysterical at the same time. I cannot believe this. :D
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Springflower
12-19 10:25 AM
Hi,
I got 2 year EAD from NSC in August 2008.
Wanted to apply for Advance Parole (second time).
Is NSC issuing 2 year AP's ?
Wondering if any body got Advance Parole for 2 years from NSC.
Also, I appreciate if any one can share their experince about INFOPASS to get Advance Parole in case of emergency
(if one did not apply for AP & need to travel urgently).
Thenk you for your help!
I got 2 year EAD from NSC in August 2008.
Wanted to apply for Advance Parole (second time).
Is NSC issuing 2 year AP's ?
Wondering if any body got Advance Parole for 2 years from NSC.
Also, I appreciate if any one can share their experince about INFOPASS to get Advance Parole in case of emergency
(if one did not apply for AP & need to travel urgently).
Thenk you for your help!
bigtime008
07-18 11:11 AM
I got intrigued about bigtime. Looked something up. Here is his post
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=84985#post84985
Note, posted on 06-16-2007.
"How long has your case been pending? My case is pending for only one month, not sure if my lawyer and employer will send email for me."
Which case is pending? LC? PERM? ONE MONTHS? Is this a BEC victim?
Frist, sorry for the confusion. I do have a 05/2007 PD at Atlanta PERM center. I came to the country in 1999 for grad school, started working with OPT in 2001, converted to H1 in 2002, laid off in 2002, started working again in 2002 with a new employer, filed labor in 2004 and got stuck in BEC ever since. The employer refused to file PERM, so I had change to a new company in 2006, and had PERM filed in 2007 and got stuck there again. Your are right, I am technically not in BEC, but psychologically I always feel I am in there.
I did not know what was 'disruptive' and 'inappropriate' about what I said. This is a board for BEC victims, so BEC victims are not allowed to express our frustration? I just expressed my depress and my concerns over how much this will retrogress the PD without targeting anyone. When tons of people run in front of our queue and shut us out in cold, we are supposed to 'enjoy the moment' with them? If so, when USCIS said no one can file 485 on July 2nd, why none of the people enjoy the happiness with those who already filed, because that will make their processing time much faster. People said we should feel happy for those who can file, because they now can get EAD/AP for their spouses, as if our spouse do not need EAD/AP. And as a result of this total mess, I don't think we'll have hope in another several years to see the date current.
IV core keeps telling us, BEC is always on their agenda. Really? If they did not even understand our pain and consider our frustration a disruption to people's happiness, how can we expect them to help? I still think IV is a great org, as it's the first such organization to speak out for legal immigrants. But when it comes to BEC victims, I did not see IV changed anything, or intend to change anything.
btw my original ID is still being banned
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=84985#post84985
Note, posted on 06-16-2007.
"How long has your case been pending? My case is pending for only one month, not sure if my lawyer and employer will send email for me."
Which case is pending? LC? PERM? ONE MONTHS? Is this a BEC victim?
Frist, sorry for the confusion. I do have a 05/2007 PD at Atlanta PERM center. I came to the country in 1999 for grad school, started working with OPT in 2001, converted to H1 in 2002, laid off in 2002, started working again in 2002 with a new employer, filed labor in 2004 and got stuck in BEC ever since. The employer refused to file PERM, so I had change to a new company in 2006, and had PERM filed in 2007 and got stuck there again. Your are right, I am technically not in BEC, but psychologically I always feel I am in there.
I did not know what was 'disruptive' and 'inappropriate' about what I said. This is a board for BEC victims, so BEC victims are not allowed to express our frustration? I just expressed my depress and my concerns over how much this will retrogress the PD without targeting anyone. When tons of people run in front of our queue and shut us out in cold, we are supposed to 'enjoy the moment' with them? If so, when USCIS said no one can file 485 on July 2nd, why none of the people enjoy the happiness with those who already filed, because that will make their processing time much faster. People said we should feel happy for those who can file, because they now can get EAD/AP for their spouses, as if our spouse do not need EAD/AP. And as a result of this total mess, I don't think we'll have hope in another several years to see the date current.
IV core keeps telling us, BEC is always on their agenda. Really? If they did not even understand our pain and consider our frustration a disruption to people's happiness, how can we expect them to help? I still think IV is a great org, as it's the first such organization to speak out for legal immigrants. But when it comes to BEC victims, I did not see IV changed anything, or intend to change anything.
btw my original ID is still being banned
gc28262
03-21 04:57 PM
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Apologize for extending the topic....but one of the 'still open' question is what if the Second Employer H1B is 'NEW' and what if it is 'Transfer'.
Murthy document does not say about the Company B H1B is NEW or TRANSFERRED.
If New H1B and Transferred H1B are same....then problem is solved.
Many of you here said both are same. I assume so too. But, we haven't proved Gapala is wrong yet (no hard feelings gapala. it is not my intention to hurt you). if 'NEW and TRANSFERRED' are different, Murthy should have mentioned in her Document, but she did not do that. So, can we safely assume, that 'NEW and TRANSFERRED' are same.
Thank you everyone who responding to my post.
If you want to hear from Murthy, see the link I posted earlier
Here it is
http://www.murthy.com/news/n_immrum.html
Relevant part from the link
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Each H1B Employer Must File a New H1B Petition
.................................................. ............................................... When an H1B employee wants to change employers in the United States, the prospective new employer must first file a new H1B petition. Although many people refer to this as an H1B "transfer," there is no separate transfer procedure under law. Each H1B is employer-specific and requires the filing of a new H1B petition and an approval from the USCIS to work for the new H1B employer.
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Apologize for extending the topic....but one of the 'still open' question is what if the Second Employer H1B is 'NEW' and what if it is 'Transfer'.
Murthy document does not say about the Company B H1B is NEW or TRANSFERRED.
If New H1B and Transferred H1B are same....then problem is solved.
Many of you here said both are same. I assume so too. But, we haven't proved Gapala is wrong yet (no hard feelings gapala. it is not my intention to hurt you). if 'NEW and TRANSFERRED' are different, Murthy should have mentioned in her Document, but she did not do that. So, can we safely assume, that 'NEW and TRANSFERRED' are same.
Thank you everyone who responding to my post.
If you want to hear from Murthy, see the link I posted earlier
Here it is
http://www.murthy.com/news/n_immrum.html
Relevant part from the link
"
Each H1B Employer Must File a New H1B Petition
.................................................. ............................................... When an H1B employee wants to change employers in the United States, the prospective new employer must first file a new H1B petition. Although many people refer to this as an H1B "transfer," there is no separate transfer procedure under law. Each H1B is employer-specific and requires the filing of a new H1B petition and an approval from the USCIS to work for the new H1B employer.
.................................................. .................................................. ....
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